CLAY CO ANIMAL CONTROL HAS A RESCUE COORIDATOR ..WHAT HAS CHANGED NOTHING

I have not seen any change in Animal Control since Clay Co hired this Person....Has anybody seen any education on sprayed and nuetering.

Any low cost Pet Service in Clay Co?

Any extra effort to ADOPT?

Anything on the TV shows to show off Clay Co PETS?

How about getting some of those 1400 prisoner at the Clay Co Jail to work at Animal Control?

Connie what are you doing to make your 63,000.00 a year plus Bonuses

AND MR. FRITZ   YOU CONTROL THE SHOW.....WHAT WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE.




Submitted by Angela on Sat, 07/12/2008 - 10:26pm.

Well animal control has gone completely out of control. I was just told someone called animal control to report baby kittens on top of the Walmart on Blanding. Evidently no one showed up to remove the kittens. So they fell down the drain pipe and you could hear them in distress. Animal Control finally showed up 2 DAYS later and said well we can't get them out so they will just have to die in the drain.

My tax dollars at work again!




Submitted by TruthHurts on Sat, 07/12/2008 - 10:28pm.

The beat goes on.

1) It's not the tax payers or the counties responsibility to waste money on educating some one on the importance of spaying and nuetering they should know that to begin with before even being allowed to own a pet. In addition every animal adopted from CCAC gets spayed or nuetered as part of the adoption process at the adoptees expense as it should be, and education material is available in the front office for all visitors to the shelter.

2) CCAC, the tax payers, and the county is not responsible for, nor does it set the prices for pet services in this county. the owners of those PRIVATE buisnesses set their own prices.

3) Try contacting a local TV network and check out how much money they would want for a 60 minute ad, and again I ask at the tax payers expense?

4) I don't think the general public that bring in their childeren and wives, along with the ladies working at CCAC would want a bunch of inmates in orange suits around. It kind of takes away from that family friendly flavor.

5) The rescue coordinator from my understanding is new and is still pretty much in the process of setting up a sound system. The person has not even finished his 90 day probation period and things don't just happen overnight. Cut the guy some slack.

CCAC is not a pet shop, not an adoption agency (even though they encourage and welcome adoptions) , not a pet supermarket, not a vetinarian clinic, not a private rescue group, not a pet owners school.

They are a tax payer funded governmental department designed to control animals at large, abandoned, abused, and enforce the county ordinances regarding animals.

Most all citizens know if they want to adopt a pet they can go to the shelter. All rescue groups know if they want to rescue animals they can go to the shelter. It's a no brainer. On several occasions right here on the blogs I have seen ads for animals up for adoption at CCAC. 

This just appears to me to be part of a continued effort to discredit CCAC and MS. Goon. And now even this new guy that hasn't even completed his probation period. The same guy on a previous blog you welcomed and requested everyone call and make him feel welcomed. Way to make the guy feel at home!!

The beat goes on.

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Submitted by ProLEO on Sat, 07/12/2008 - 10:35pm.

 

1400 prisoners @ the CCSO jail? Do some research and then see if you can volunteer @ CCAC.




Submitted by TruthHurts on Sat, 07/12/2008 - 10:37pm.

Maybe you should post the name of the person that stated this to you, and the name of the officer that said let them die.

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Submitted by Angela on Sat, 07/12/2008 - 10:51pm.

Contact the new Walmart on Blanding Blvd they should be able to provide you with that information. 




Submitted by TruthHurts on Sat, 07/12/2008 - 10:55pm.

It's your post Dear you seen to be convinced and disgruntled over it enough to post it here.

At the very least if you or the person that just told you this are truly concerned I am sure you both will be placing a call to MS. Goon to let her know what happened so she can rectify this from ever happening again right??

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Submitted by Angela on Sat, 07/12/2008 - 10:59pm.

Made a phone call. They didn't have a name but it was man about 5'10, 200 lbs, scruffy look and in his 40's.




Submitted by TruthHurts on Sat, 07/12/2008 - 11:03pm.

Great I am happy to hear that.

Now at least it gives Ms. Goon a chance to address it.

Thank you.

As a side note Angela if this is true I am sure you will agree that it does not mean all at animal control would do or say such a thing, there is good and bad everywhere and should not be considered the mind set of every animal control person.

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Submitted by Angela on Sat, 07/12/2008 - 11:11pm.

I will say this animal control in Clay County has had and continues to have serious problems. I would like to know what Mr. Behring plans on doing about that situation.




Submitted by don99977 on Sun, 07/13/2008 - 7:39am.

It's still a killing machine with non effort people there who care.

IF WE CAN CONTINUE TO PAY TO TAKE SIGN DOWN WE CAN WE DIRECT MORE TO ANIMAL CONTROL.

But first of we need to get someone who care and whats to do the job......NOT just  get a pay check AND WAITING FOR RETIREMENT...AND MISS CONNIE GOON IS NOT IT.......WAKE UP COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND COMMISSIONERS TO BE LOOK AT YOUR ANIMAL CONTROL. CLAY CO CITIZENS CALL MR. BEHING AND TELL HIM YOU WANT A BETTER ANIMAL CONTROL, TELL HIM YOU WANT A NEW DIRECTOR OF ANIMAL CONTROL




Submitted by gottasayit on Sun, 07/13/2008 - 8:33am.

Truth, You are wrong again in some of your statements. It is Clay County and Animal Controls job to educate the public about animal issues. Especially when they are allowing adoptions from their shelter. Why would you allow someone to adopt an animal without educating or giving them resources to help them in raising and training the animal?

As far as putting the CCAC animals on TV...this doesn't cost a dime. Jacksonville Care and Control is on TV every Saturday morning with some of theirs. This is at no cost to the taxpayers! Could it be that no one is professional enough to do this at CCAC?

Maybe not inmates...but how is that Ms Goon will not allow anyone to volunteer at CCAC stating insurance reasons? The Sheriffs Office has volunteers everywhere including private citizens in golf carts.

And are you trying to tell the taxpayers that a person must be off probation on his job before he can start doing or showing the taxpayers what he is being paid for? That would be crazy!!! What if a deputy new on the job didn't enforce the laws or protect the public until he was off probation while working the street on patrol?

And in response to your answer about spay and neutering.....you stated that every animal that leaves CCAC is spayed or neutered as part of the adoption program!!!! You are WRONG. I know for a fact that employees as well as private citizens have taken animals from CCAC and did not have them spayed or neutered. Why don't you check with their kennel manager...ask her how many she has taken or allowed to leave without being fixed to prevent them from breeding.

And why is it Truth that any time someone on the blog makes a comment or criticizes CCAC you always come to their defense? Could it be you either work there or have family that works there?

The taxpayers are not upset about money being spent to help the animals in Clay County, the taxpayers are upset about money being paid to employees at CCAC that don't care about how the money is being spent. Why hasn't Ms Goon in the 19 years she has been there searched for grants and money to start a spay/neuter program in Clay County? Why hasn't she computerized the system so records cannot be lost or misplaced? Why hasn't she inacted a license fee to all cat and dog owners to help the high cost of operation? Why hasn't she had fund raisers like Jacksonville to help pay for extras? WHAT HAS SHE DONE IN 19 YEARS?




Submitted by TruthHurts on Sun, 07/13/2008 - 8:52am.

Euthanasia is a necessary evil at CCAC.

A recsue group could come in and rescue every single animal in there today (which they would never do because of their own space requirements) and the next day that shelter would be completely full again.

As stated before CCAC is a Governmental animal CONTROL agency. Unlike rescue groups, safe shelteres, and even private citizens they cannot turn off the tap to shut down the flow of animals they intake. As a government agency they must take them ALL in. I have known people to go to safe shelters with animals and were turned away because they are full and told to go to CCAC. CCAC can't do that.

The sheer numbers alone dictates the euthanasia need. I think it is unfair to say the folks at CCAC are killing machines and don't care. I beleive that they would all rather see an animal adopted or rescued rather then them be euthanized. I beleive they do what they do because of their love of animals. I don't think it is right to demonize these people beofore walking a mile in their shoes. I beleive they do care. I beleive they carry a huge burden on their shoulders, for the good of the county and the animals.

I beleive there are probably more good stories to be told within the CCAC then bad, Yet I don't see any of those stories posted. But that would not fit in with the sceme of things of those that would demonize them.

It's just the same ole, same ole, attacks at Ms. Goon and the folks at CCAC.   

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Submitted by Angela on Sun, 07/13/2008 - 9:16am.

Truth if what you are saying is correct, "A recsue group could come in and rescue every single animal in there today (which they would never do because of their own space requirements) and the next day that shelter would be completely full again."

Then I think it would be imperative someone with leadership skills take over animal control and follow the policies of animal control. This comes from their website.

As the ever increasing population of Clay County continues to expand, so does the pet population. This has posed a challenge to our county government. However, the challenge is being dealt with head-on by expanding the shelter, hiring additional employees and most importantly, working to educate the public. Clay County Animal Control looks forward to becoming a leader amongst its peers.

I think if the shelter could be emptied today and then full again tomorrow. Someone has failed to do their job in educating the public. How to we compensate for those shortcomings kill the animals and call it euthanized.

Maybe if Ms. Goon had done a little less blogging on county time (which you expressed you had no problems with) and a little more of her responsiblities then the public could get educated on your statement. I think the best way to fix the problem is work on what is causing the problem. Education, education, education and a means to help these owners get the animals spayed and neutered.

I think the county auditor has been clear on his feelings concerning actions and improprieties coming out of that department. I just wonder if Ms. Goon will get another A+ rating by Mr. Bodenweber again.

For those who may have missed the article in the TU here's a link. I would also encourage you to search the blogs in the box provided above for animal control too.

http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/021108/met_245742036.shtml




Submitted by joeriley08 on Sun, 07/13/2008 - 9:55am.

Angela states that, "...if the shelter could be emptied today and then full again tomorrow.  someone has failed to do their job in educating the public.

GEEZE...get off of the CCAC's back. Angela maybe you should run the place..did you know it is underfunded??? (you will now say that the director is over-paid) I say if you think the director is over-paid why don't you offer to do the job as a "public service"?

As far as education of the public on spaying and nutering is concerned why don't you start a campaign for the same as this seems to be a very important issue to you.

Instead of complaining and "blogging"  get out there and become active in the cause.

 




Submitted by TruthHurts on Sun, 07/13/2008 - 10:05am.

Look

I am not going to get dragged back into this mess with any of you any more. We have been all over this and rather then continue this and have it get ugly I will remove myself.

It's always the same people that jump on this and I think that in itself speaks volumes.

Makes me wonder if animal control impounded one of your pets and that upset you, or kicked you off the property for not being a nice person.

Whatever the reason it's always the same people that come back to it, the same handfull of people seem to be the only ones with a problem.

As I have stated in the past good luck on you vindictive quest. 

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Submitted by Angela on Sun, 07/13/2008 - 11:05am.

Let's take some similiar counties and compare.

Hernando County population 166K total budget 1,203,192.

Bay County population 164K total budget 760,542. Euthanized only 510 animals last year.

Charlotte County population of 155K total budget 1,190,120.

Clay County population of 179K total budget 1,375,757. Euthanized 8000 animals last year.

It seems according to the budget document Clay County has the highest amount of funding at almost 1.4 million.

However, in Palm Beach County where they have over 1 million citizens they also killed the same number of animals per year that Clay County does with only 180k citizens. The county that would most look like Clay County is Bay County who has the smallest budget and the least amount of animals killed each year.

Of course it couldn't be Ms. Goon's responsibility as the director it must be the worthless 180k citizens in Clay County. Maybe we should keep Ms. Goon and throw out all of the citizens. Just a thought.

I don't think the underfunded excuse looks that good any more.




Submitted by TruthHurts on Sun, 07/13/2008 - 12:52pm.

Analysis flawed

It does not take into account the following, and much more.

1) The population demographics regarding personal income and education levels of the pet owners.

2) The population of pets in each county.

3) The number of animal crimes in each county, where animals must be held separately in private kennels during investigations and court cases being heard regarding animal crimes..

4) The numbers of daily impounded animals due to a lack of proper containment of pets by owners.

5) The number of animals brought into the shelters by citizens daily.

6) The number of animals dumped on the streets be citizens that end up at the shelter.

7) The number of kennels (space) available at each shelter, how many animals can they house, and for how long can they hold them.

8) The number of wanted and unwanted feral cat colonies.

9) The number of pet owners that never come to the shelter to get their pet back after being picked up for running the streets.

10) The number of animals that are brought into the shelter that require medical care and medication and the costs involved.,

11) The number of animals on average that need to be placed in a quarantined status taking up an entire kennel due to illnesses and animal bites.

12) The personal preferences of citizens going in to adopt a pet, is the breed they want available.

13) Is the qaulity, quantity, and cost of food purchased the same.

14) Is the number of large livestock type animals impounded the same along with the medical and food requirements.

15) Are their emegency on call services the same for off hour problems and do they receive the same amount of calls dipping into their overtime budgets.

Is it the fault of all 179k citizens of Clay County? Of course not, not all of them, there are many good pet owners here in Clay. But maybe, just maybe, it‘s:

16) These other counties have more responsible pet owners then Clay does and that’s not Ms. Goon or CCAC’s fault.

This problem boils down to personal responsibility and accountability of pet owners.

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Submitted by Angela on Sun, 07/13/2008 - 1:57pm.

Truthhurts "I am not going to get dragged back into this mess with any of you any more. We have been all over this and rather then continue this and have it get ugly I will remove myself."

Now that you are in your person since the real you has removed yourself from the blogs. I will offer the following from the county's I listed:

Hernando County

Median household income, 2004 $35,577

High school graduates 78.5%

Bachelor's degree or higher 12.7%

The ANIMAL SERVICES MANAGER has 16.38 years service and makes $23.53 per hour.

Bay County

Median household income, 2004 $38,972

High school graduates 81.0%

Bachelor's degree or higher 17.7%

Charlotte County

Median household income, 2004 $37,820

High school graduates 82.1%

Bachelor’s degree or higher 17.6%

Clay County

Median household income, 2004 $53,201

High school graduates 86.4%

Bachelor’s degree or higher 20.1%

Animal Control director 19 years service and makes 63,000 per year.

It looks like Clay County has the highest number of high school graduates, the highest number with bachelor’s degrees or higher. The highest median household income.

Oh and we have one of the highest kill rates too. Well I guess we can determine the population is smarter, better skilled and makes the highest income.

I guess that would further demonstrate that the problems seem to be in animal control.

Would you like to examine the response time in Clay County which is 24 hours but we are working on 8 hours as our goal. They have 6 people who take home county vehicles. Maybe we should give more of them some cars the county taxpayers pay can fund. By the recent incident at Walmart the response time has now increased to 2 days.

I think you have been in the government excuse playbook.

All facts quoted have been obtained from the US Census Bureau and of course my favorite public records.




Submitted by TruthHurts on Sun, 07/13/2008 - 2:10pm.

It's been said it's a ladies prerogative to change her mind. Please don't be angry.

Your analysis is still flawed.

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Submitted by Angela on Sun, 07/13/2008 - 2:15pm.

Those are not my facts but those published for the public.

I do see something flawed here, but I don't think it's the facts that I've presented.

Mr. Behring don't you think it's about time we make some changes and some reform in County government. You know our new lean and mean and improved budget.

I think I will go outside and play now!




Submitted by TruthHurts on Sun, 07/13/2008 - 2:20pm.

Those stats are 4 years old, your research is laking data on the complete picture, and your facts concernering the amount of officers at CCAC is wrong.

In addition to that your last post you seem to be stumbling on your words. Please don't be angry.

No worries I see gotasayit have arrived for support

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Submitted by Angela on Sun, 07/13/2008 - 2:37pm.

The only thing flawed is I was informed the kittens incident happened at KMART on Blanding Blvd and not Walmart on Blanding Blvd.

The person who supplied the information and has read the blog called to tell me it was KMART at Kingsley and Blanding.

Sorry wrong Mart.




Submitted by gottasayit on Sun, 07/13/2008 - 2:39pm.

Everyone has good points to make about CCAC and its staff. No one is bashing the employees that work hard everyday to try and help the animals there. What we are all trying to say is that the leadership at CCAC has outlived its usefulness!! Ms Goon is now only taking up space. Her and some of her administration staff are using the facility as their own private business. She needs to be replaced with a person with new ideas, who is not afraid to get out there and get their hands dirty. Someone who will try and find ways to educate and help the taxpayers with the overpopulation of animals in our county. Why is it Ms Goon sits in her office refusing to talk to the public or answer questions regarding our county shelter whenever there is a problem. Even our county auditor has reported the lack of leadership and policies. She is responcible for overseeing that polices are revised when they no longer are working! Its just like any other government agency...when you have someone that has been in their position for that length of time, they start acting as if they are untouchable and can do just about anything they want and dare anyone to question them. If you don't believe this try talking to one of her employees about any of the problems we have talked about on the blog and see their reaction. They are afraid to even talk to you about CCAC for fear of losing their job.

Its time for our county manager to do some reorganizing at CCAC and put new leadership in there that won't threaten or intiminate people working there when they try and speak out about the problems, question her actions or try and come up with new ideas.

Truth...you are correct when you say that the overpopulation of animals is the fault of irresponcible pet owners. But you cannot blame them for wanting a better shelter and find more ways to stop euthanizing so many animals that could find homes.

 




Submitted by TruthHurts on Sun, 07/13/2008 - 2:45pm.

Riiiiiiiiight.

An unamed joe citizen called you up personally because they knew you were the "go to" person to get those evil people at CCAC. At the same time Don posts his blog. And no one knows the name of the officer involved just a vague discription that could be anyone

You sound very angry to me, almost personal I would say.

Maybe you should go down to the shelter and have a face to face with Ms. Goon yourself so you can clear this all up for us.

 

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Submitted by TruthHurts on Sun, 07/13/2008 - 3:05pm.

And there my firends is the root of the problem there are bitter feelings floating out here by the few directed at Ms. Goon. it's been painfully obvious for those with eyes.

Alas the back up support has arrived. same handfull of people as I said before.

 

 PS

You got the store name wrong, the number of officers at CCAC wrong, and present 4 year old stats. Nice!! Sounds to me like you got it all figured out.

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Submitted by don99977 on Sun, 07/13/2008 - 4:57pm.

Loyality is good I guess if you want to keep your job.But the writings on the wall.

Connie Goon is WASTING CLAY CO TAXPAYERS MONEY.and nobody IN Clay Co Goverment will not do anything about it.

IT Been proven she not doing her job and she is still there......WHAT IS SHE DOING TO KEEP HER JOB.

Mr. Fritz don't let this person do this...CLAY CO DESERVES BETTER.




Submitted by Angela on Sun, 07/13/2008 - 5:06pm.

Truth the information I posted was the most current information provided by the US Census Bureau. Of course that being a government entity that is pretty updated by their standards.

I never said how many animal control officer they have on staff. That information can be easily obtained through public records.

What I did say was according to an email that I have posted on the blogs by the way of public records 6 people take home vehicles. I didn't specify who those people were that took those home.

I cleared up the name of the store which I had incorrectly called Walmart instead of Kmart.

However, in that area there have been numerous problems dating back to when they had to finally trap and kill all the stray cats and kittens from that area. Then they place an announce in the paper because a child could have been scratched or bitten by one of the cats who's family was at Famous Amos eating. The stray animals tested positive for rabies and all of them had to be destroyed. Looks like we had some of the same problems way back then too.

As far as Ms. Goon I have no bitter feelings toward her. I have no feelings toward her at all. I have never meet Ms. Goon or spoken to Ms. Goon and I wouldn't know her if I saw her. As a matter of fact I wouldn't know Don99977 or gotta say it either.

I do know one thing if someone make a comment about Animal Control on these blogs you will show up and before you get off. You'll will have made some statement like I lied about the incident at Kmart and in some of these blogs even worst statements. That we can always count on.

I don't believe it would be hard for someone to find out if the incident happened at Kmart. Animal Control was called and if Ms. Goon has learned how to do proper paperwork out there they should have a record. That would be a big IF.




Submitted by TruthHurts on Sun, 07/13/2008 - 5:46pm.

 Angela

Your words

"They have 6 people who take home county vehicles" 

The only people that take vehicles home at CCAC are officers, and there are more then 6. I would re check your facts.

Again your words

"I don't believe it would be hard for someone to find out if the incident happened at Kmart. Animal Control was called and if Ms. Goon has learned how to do proper paperwork out there they should have a record. That would be a big IF."

You were the one posting this information on the blog thread as fact, I think maybe that puts the ball in your court as to verifying it's validity before you posted it. Now your saying it would'nt be hard to find out "IF the incident happened". How special is that!  

Personally I have no inclination to dig into it. I don't care to do some one elses homework, or fact finding.

Your whole Analysis as stated earlier is completely flawed.

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Submitted by TruthHurts on Sun, 07/13/2008 - 6:01pm.

Don99977

AKA SPOT.

AKA The guy booted from CCAC for inappropriate touching of a female staff member and misconduct.

I hate to bust your bubble my friend but I don't work at CCAC and anything that happens there does not effect me one way or the other. So you can take that for whatever it's worth.

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Submitted by Angela on Sun, 07/13/2008 - 6:07pm.

Here's the email it states how many vehicles are taken home.

From: Bill K. Bodenweber
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 10:31 AM
To: Diane P. Walker
Subject: Take Home Vehicles

5 of 6 code enforcement officers take county vehicles home. All are dispatched from home each morning. One Officer works Saturdays.

6 Animal Control Officers take vehicles home. One is on call 24 hours, one is on duty until 22:00 and all are dispatched from home in the morning.

 




Submitted by TruthHurts on Sun, 07/13/2008 - 6:38pm.

I have mentioned this in the past but for those who did not catch it I will mention this again.

 

I do not work at CCAC. I do know the folks there very well which is the primary reason that I have no problem to come to there defense. Let me give you a brief history of my dealing with CCAC and how I came to know these folks.

Several years back I went to CCAC to adopt a pet. I was given the grand tour and found the folks to be hard working dedicated animal lovers. I was so impressed by what they do for those animals that I began to bring them donations. I would bring them newspapers, towels, canned pet food stuff like that.

I have been doing so for several years now. And I am there every two or three months to bring donations.

In the course of my visits I have had the opportunity to speak personally with Ms. Goon and all of her staff members. I have been privy to taking part in many discussions with them all. Some sad stories, some happy stories, and everything in between. They welcome me warmly, and I respect them greatly.

What I personally have found is that they are all honorable hard working people dedicated to these animals purely out of love of these animals. They perform honorably in a job that most people would never want to do, I know I couldn’t do it..

I do know a lot about CCAC because we have a mutual respect, and they openly discuss their concerns with me. We have become friends.

They are my friends and I love them for what they do under the worst of conditions. This is why I will defend them. This is why I say to those that would put them down with false accusations, innuendo, half truths, and flawed analysis. To go sit down with Ms. Goon and her staff face to face and discuss your concerns. You may just be surprised.

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Submitted by TruthHurts on Sun, 07/13/2008 - 6:52pm.

I would check the date on that memo Ms. Angela public records girl. It is now inaccurate, things do change you know.

There are now 8 officers at CCAC and they are the only people to take vehicles home from CCAC. 

They are required to be available 24/7 for the good of the public in case of emergencies and yes even naturual disasters. When other folks are packing up to flee from a hurricain they will remain behind to care for your lost and abandoned pets. Seems like they care about the pets more then the pet owners themselves.

They carry their phones with them 24/7 for the people of this county and their animals, and they must make themselves available at all times.

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Submitted by finder on Sun, 07/13/2008 - 7:11pm.

TH;

I don't want to argue any point in this saga. What I'd like is a lesson in math.

The memo Angela sighted said 6 but you say that is now inaccurate and say there are now 8 officers at CCAC. Do all of them take home vehicles? Did we go from 6 vehicles being driven home every night to 8 vehicles being driven home?

Mike Heemer




Submitted by TruthHurts on Sun, 07/13/2008 - 7:32pm.

Not sure if they always had six or eight vehicles, they did have only six officers at one time I think they only had 4 at another time., Currently they do have 8 and I beleive they do take the vehicles home.

They take them home from what I understand is because they must to available 24/7 , ie off hour emergencies. Sheriiff assist. calls, Fire rescue assist calls, and they are dispatched calls to them when they are at home. From time to time they may need more then one officer to respond. an example of this may be it's  the middle of the night and 6 bulls are loose running down HW 16 South in Green Cove. In a situation like this a human life can easily be in danger. Cars and running bulls don't blend well.

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Submitted by clayvoter on Sun, 07/13/2008 - 8:01pm.

 

I have really tried to stay out of anything related to CCAC...but I cannot contain myself. 

EIGHT TAKE HOME VEHICLES.....holy cow bull. I would like to know how many CCSO patrol cars are on the road at night. We need them a heck of a lot more than vehicles on "bull patrol"  The CCSO cars are also running in a zone. Are all these EIGHT CCAC cars spread out for efficiency? Do they put the bulls/cats/dogs/chickens in the back of a sedan?  Or would they have to call for a transport vehicle anyway? I cannot believe in my wildest imagination that Clay County needs 8 take home cars for "animal emergencies"  I would love to see the logs of how many after hours call out s they have had in the last year.     

Any answers out there????




Submitted by TruthHurts on Sun, 07/13/2008 - 8:25pm.

CCSO vehicles are not allowed to carry or transport animals. The take home vehicles at CCAC are trucks designed to carry animals and equipted with gear needed to handle animal emergencies. The eight animal trucks are not on the road at night patroling. They are only used when called out for an emergency. The bull situation may not happen every night but I sure would'nt want to be the person sitting in my car with six bulls running around and playing soccer with my car and life on HWY 16.

On a less dramatic scale I would'nt want a Deputy to pull over a drunk driver in the middle of the night in Orange Park that has two dogs in the car and have to sit there waiting while an Animal Control Officer in the middle of the night has to travel from Orange Park to Green Cove to pick up a truck, then go back to Orange Park to pick up the dogs, then back to Green Cove to impound the dogs, then back to Orange Park to go back off the clock. The time taken away from the Deputy that could be spent on other calls, and the extra time (overtime-rate) paid to the Animal Control Officer, would be rather costly.

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Submitted by don99977 on Sun, 07/13/2008 - 8:38pm.

TRUTHHURTS YOU MUST BE REALLY BIND......THIS WORST RUN ANIMAL CONTROL IN THE STATE....WHAT IS CONNIE GOON DOING FOR YOU....a pig a goat...maybe a horse .You say you don't work there but so did COOKIE AND WE.....found that was wrong.

Animal Control is so missmanaged...if they had someone that knew what they were doing it so likely would not be unfunded.




Submitted by gottasayit on Sun, 07/13/2008 - 8:40pm.

Well Truth....who is flawed now? Animal Control Officer are not dispatched from their home in the mornings. They drive to CCAC and pick up their daily calls or transports for the day every morning. I guess you really don't know all that happens out at CCAC. Just to let you in on a little secret...most of those donations that you have been bringing to the shelter are not accounted for on their monthly inventory. So guess where alot of those things go? Right in the employees vehicle to be used to supplement their lack of pay or having to stay overtime so their animals get alittle something extra.

The only time a CCAC officer gets dispatched from their home is if an emergency call comes in to Public Safety or CCSO before they go to work in the am. You are correct in saying that one officer is on call after hours and one works until 10:00pm

If you are not an employee...then someone has been blowing smoke right up where the sun doesn't shine. You need to open your eyes!!! Of course Ms Goon and her staff are going to put on their best faces for you...otherwise they might upset the golden goose.




Submitted by TruthHurts on Sun, 07/13/2008 - 8:50pm.

 Don.

I see fine and I see what you are trying to do, my eyes see well thank you Sir.

I don't know how many bulls you've ever had to round up and load into a trailor, But my guess is I would call in for other Animal Control Officers for help.

I don't know how you would fair seperating and impounding 3 crazy pitbulls chewing on someones leg, But I would call in more Animal Control Officers for help.

I Don't know how many times in the middle of the night you have been called out on an Animal related emergency, But I would like to know that other Officers are there to back me up whenever needed.

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Submitted by TruthHurts on Sun, 07/13/2008 - 9:02pm.

Gottasay it you half right.

Officers that will be taking adopted animals into the vet offices for spay, nueter, or rabies reclaim are in early due to time constraints to meet appointments. While they are there they do pick up calls that were backed up from the day before, or non priority calls that happened over the course of the night.

The Officers that are not doing the am vet appointments are dispatched calls from their homes.

By the way accussing people of stealing is a very serious thing to do specially when you cannot prove that. It is a very mean and hurtfull thing to say without proof. You prove my case for me when I say it's the same hanfull of people that attack here.

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Submitted by don99977 on Sun, 07/13/2008 - 9:04pm.

Look back how many time have that REALLY happen....protecting your job again......JUST ANOTHER BENNY THATS A WASTE OF MONEY......Putting that lipstick onn that PIG AGAIN




Submitted by TruthHurts on Sun, 07/13/2008 - 9:09pm.

I must admit I don't know what you just said or mean???

Sorry I don't understand jibberish.

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Submitted by don99977 on Sun, 07/13/2008 - 9:19pm.

Don't want to say.....admit ignorance...




Submitted by TruthHurts on Sun, 07/13/2008 - 9:26pm.

LOL

I have know idea what your point is here, and I think I just admitted I have know idea what the jibberish is that you are shouting at me relating to your previous post.

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Submitted by gottasayit on Sun, 07/13/2008 - 9:32pm.

Truth...there is not that many people on the blog that even care one bit what happens at CCAC. And you may be right, it seems its the same people who have something to say about CCAC and MS Goon. You need to get out and talk to the taxpayers in Clay County. Talk to some of the local rescues and the local vets. Not many have anything good to say about CCAC. And they are not on this blog and probably have never even read any of the blogs. Some have even stopped doing business with CCAC due to their lack of leadership and policies. This is no way to run a county agency. The lack of support and belief in the person running and calling all the shots at CCAC, by the very people that can help and do the most for her is what we all are talking about.

When you don't have the support and trust with the local vets and rescues in the county because you don't seem to cooperate or try and work together for the animals, you need to find another profession. Ms Goon talks the talk, but she doesn't walk the walk.




Submitted by gottasayit on Sun, 07/13/2008 - 9:44pm.

Look at the employee turn over rate at CCAC. And don't try and say its because of the job they do for the little bit of pay. They took that county job with all the benefits (insurance, dental, retirement) knowing exactly what they were going to be paid. They didn't have to take the job. Besides what did they think animal control shelter job meant when they applied?

Try asking some of the ex-employees why they left or got fired. Yes some may be disgruntle employees. But not all of them. And when I say that alot of the donated items go home with employees...thats a true statement!! Call Ms Goon or her staff and ask if donated items are added to the shelters inventory list. I bet you won't get a straight answer.




Submitted by TruthHurts on Sun, 07/13/2008 - 9:53pm.

Well

I am one of those tax payers and I have good things to say about them.

I have a good rounded social life and do get out and have not heard any of what has been happening here. I only see the same limited number of people throwing out the same old red herrings.

I don't see any local vets comming out publically to denounce CCAC and I would think if they had any problems they would be compelled to do just that.

When you make blanket statements that are not provable about people with flawed analysis, half truth, and enuendo, you diminish credibilty. I beleive I have made my point here and offered more fact and truth then all the contributors on this thread combined.

Well I will admit to you all this, you have worn me out and I am very tired. Therefore I will take my rest. I am not sure if I will even come back to play with you little mischeivious monkeys or not. I guess I will play that by ear.

Nighty night folks.

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Submitted by Angela on Mon, 07/14/2008 - 6:57am.

Truth hurts " I beleive I have made my point here and offered more fact and truth then all the contributors on this thread combined."

Would you please scroll up these blogs and provide me with any facts that you have presented in this blog.

As far as the email. The county budget is made for the 07/08 fiscal year. That email was in response to the request to know how many vehicles were driven home. Thus the date August 07.

They are in the process of working on the budget for the 08/09 fiscal year.

Regardless if 6 or 8 officers taking vehicles home. Why did it take 2 days for someone to show up at Kmart at 8:30 on the night of July 10th concerning the kittens that were on top of the roof. Which by that time had fell into the drain and left to die by Clay County Animal Control.

Mr. Behring needs to take a page out of Nassau County's playbook and restrict this abuse of vehicles at county taxpayers expense.

Let's see what "Cookie" Ms. Goon says about taking home county vehicles on the blogs.

County take home vehicles

Submitted by Cookie on Fri, 05/02/2008 - 12:28am.

Truth,

Your correct regarding take home vehicles. If your subject to be called out 24/7 then you get the previleage of taking a vehicle home.

All Department Heads and Division Directors are not allowed to take home vehicles even though some are subject to call out 24/7.

The County Manager takes his vehicle home. When does he show up at any location that he would need a take home vehicle??

George Bush has pushed this issue for many years. But it seems as though it only depended on who you are. Why would Don Moore need to drive home a vehicle when oversees the finance department?

Once again, our fine government at its best.

In my opinion, there should not be any take home vehicles unless you are on call. That includes the county manager, the finance director and Jett amongest others.

Here's an excerpt from an email by Mike Price concerning "Cookie" Ms. Goon and her blogging on county time.


I believe Animal Control is incredibly important and a primary function of government. I know that you do as well. One would always hope that folks charged with managing such missions would bring a modicum of maturity and good judgment to their jobs. I think that if a manager conducts themselves diligently in that fashion, it can only inspire the public’s confidence. Not doing so can likewise destroy the public’s confidence in their institutions. That is why this irks me so much: “Cookie” probably did not violate an inadequate policy. More importantly, she did greater damage to her own credibility as a manager, and the public’s confidence as well, through what amounts to immaturity and lack of judgment. That is not helpful in the fight to enhance CCAC resources and capabilities and reflects poorly on my client.

 

These are the times when I hate my job.   

 

Michael T. Price, CPA

Board of County Commissioners , Clay County

Commission Auditor

Tel: (904) 278-3647




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