Barack the magic negro

I will not voice my opinion on this link at this time; I just wanted to put it on the blog to give others the opportunity to listen, and watch. But it did give me a chuckle

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvXz2xaLNMQ




Submitted by SoloVoce on Thu, 03/13/2008 - 3:08pm.

GW,

I did get a momentary chuckle, but not for the reasons you might think.  This shot did, indeed, do a couple of things for me.  It reaffirmed the correctness of my decision to spend a bare minimum amount of time listening to opinion oriented talk shows especially those of the far right.  It also confirmed what I've been saying @ Limbo, & those of his ilk, for years.  Their shows are, of course, popular.  That does show that there is absolutely no shortage of people willing to be led by the noses, intellects firmly implanted in their back pockets, and all to eager to listen to the puerile sophistry of some bombastic blowhard rather than think for themselves.  Of course, that is only my opinion, you see.  But I do thank you for providing this very substantial evidence to back up my opinion. 

What the heck.  You saved me a heck of a lot of work.  You da man!  JATFUR.

RichK




Submitted by Marsha on Thu, 03/13/2008 - 3:10pm.

I love "Puff the Magic Dragon" I sang it as a lullaby to my girls when they were babies.  Anything Al's involved in makes me want to hurl, I can't stand that man.




Submitted by OneMann on Thu, 03/13/2008 - 3:20pm.

Radio talk shows like Rush and Lily's favorite local, Andy Johnson, survive on a relatively small number of dedicated listeners.  That's pretty much all it takes in each individual radio market.

A radio show in a market of a couple of dozen stations doesn't need a huge percentage of listeners to rule the market.  Got 10 or 12 percent of the area radios tuned in at any one time, chances are you're king of your time slot.

The radio ranters' actual number of devotees may be small, but still register big enough to translate into successful ratings, which translates into advertising dollars, which translates into more ranting to maintain that small core audience.  Nobody's getting any smarter, but somebody's turning a profit.

Michael S. Mann




Submitted by finder on Thu, 03/13/2008 - 3:22pm.

Jib Jabs are parodies. This is ..... I don't know what to call it.

I can say I find it offensive. Rush must be running short of listeners and trying to get the Jerry Springer crowd to tune in.  

I don't think Obama should be President but it has nothing to do with color. Vote the person, not the color, sex or party. 

Mike Heemer




Submitted by TruthHurts on Thu, 03/13/2008 - 7:48pm.

I'll share something personal

My spouse is African American and we both thought it was funny.

Something you may see on Saturday Night live.

Not all humor is for everyone. Ask Andrew Dice Clay, lenny bruce, and Richard Prior who made fun of white folks all the time and was married to a white woman.

 

TRUTHHURTS




Submitted by GhostWriter on Thu, 03/13/2008 - 8:49pm.

            The phase "Barack the Magic Negro" That Rush did a parity about came from the most liberal News paper in this country,the L.A. Times. David Ehrenstein’s opinion section of the paper did the article about a magic Negro and rush did a parity about his article. As you can see by all the response to the blog everyone Assumed Rush is the one who coined the phase "Barack the Magic Negro", but in reality it came from the far left. The link below will take you to the L.A. Times article by Mr. Ehrenstein’s The following link will take you to the history of the parity.. http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-ehrenstein19mar19,0,5335087.story?coll=la-opinion-center 

"Barack The Magic Negro" The History Of The Song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0HCXpbxh9s&feature=related

  




Submitted by TruthHurts on Thu, 03/13/2008 - 8:57pm.

GW

I checked that out before making my comments, it's very interesting the responses.

Thanks for posting the link I should have thought of that.

 

TRUTHHURTS




Submitted by GhostWriter on Thu, 03/13/2008 - 11:21pm.

 

The reason I posted my blog as I did is, it was an experiment to see if what Rush Limba’s theory would actually occur as he stated it would. On his talk show today his comment was that by the end of the day he would own the Phase, Barack the Magic Negro, and take all of the heat for it even though it came from a far left liberal news article. The words from the song were taken right from the article.

Out of the five blogers that responded to my blog the only ones that didn’t equate it to Rush was Truthhurts, And Marsha. So my Question is for Solo, Oneman, and Finder why, and how did you equate the song to Rush Limba? I went back to the link for the song and no where on it did it refer to Rush. Solo you are the one that appears to have stepped in it the hardest, if you want to call it that.

“It also confirmed what I've been saying @ Limbo, & those of his ilk, for years.  Their shows are, of course, popular.  That does show that there is absolutely no shortage of people willing to be led by the noses, intellects firmly implanted in their back pockets, and all to eager to listen to the puerile sophistry of some bombastic blowhard rather than think for themselves.”

Your reply is the one that appears to be a Fallacious argument. Now I didn’t do this to slam anyone, I did it to prove a point, and to see if rush was correct in his statement. The point is we all can have misleading assumptions based on our political and ideological beliefs. And, I am the woman, maybe, remember my first blog, please don’t assume that I am a male.

 

I  truly would like an answer to my question guy’s I  am really curious as to why, and how. I have to work tomorrow, so I can’t respond until the evening. Thank you guy’s for participating in my little experiment. And Marsha I like that song also I sing it to my grandson all the time.  Sealed Cool




Submitted by finder on Fri, 03/14/2008 - 1:21am.

GW;

You seem to have made some very huge assumptions in interpreting the data presented. Was it to ensure that your data stated your position?

I did not see any response to this blog that implied that Rush 'owned' this phrase. Only that he uses it on his radio show. I can't speak for the other two that made comments about Rush but for me, I did a little homework prior to making my comments and I assume they did too.

I already knew that it did not 'belong' to Rush. I knew who had 'coined' it and where it came from. The fact is that Rush uses it on his show to garner followers listeners.

He uses it because that is what they want to hear. When you pander to the lowest level of the population you have to use stuff like this to meet the intellectual level of your audience.

I had a few other choice comments about Rush in my original post that I decided to send to the world of delete. They shall remain there. But for the people that listen to him and his type, try Jerry you'll probably like it.

Mike Heemer




Submitted by TruthHurts on Fri, 03/14/2008 - 8:07am.

 

 GW

I knew what you were doing and thought it was funny and enlightening. The point you make demonstates what I have said several times before on these blogs but fell on deaf ears and all I got in return was critisism. There are several "experts" here on the blogs about "everything" and if your thoughts and opinions are out of line with theirs you are out and out wrong or ignorant.

In order to find the truth about anything you must investigate "both" sides of the issue with equal vigor. It's simply not done with some here. There minds are made up and you will never change that. But thats ok too, to each their own.

This is why when I see certain names pop up on the postings I don't even bother to read them anymore.

TRUTHHURTS




Submitted by SoloVoce on Fri, 03/14/2008 - 9:00am.

GW,

I have to admit that this was a good one.  It has also been a pleasant diversion for me, I kid you not.  First, it was reading the reactions, second, reading the blame game, left or right, third the revealing facts.  Or are they?

At first glance, you are right.  It looked like I stepped in it big time   But that's only partially correct. I drew my conclusion on a fact.  What I did not do, was more research into it & I admit it.  The reason was that I was not particularly interested in it.  but I should explain.  Actually, there are two things needing explanation.

You stated that you went back to the LINK FOR THE SONG and no where on it did it refer to Rush.  I beg to differ, my friend.  If you go back to the link & look to the box on the right under, RELATED VIDEO, there is, indeed, one titled, "Rush Limbaugh's (AS in personal possesive) Barak the Magic Negro.  That is what I based my conclusion on.  It was a naturaly assumption.  As I said, what I failed to do was more research, but then I wasn't that interested.

So, yes, my friend, there was a reference to Rush.  But the thinking process doesn't stop there. (I like the way this coincides with my blog on thinking caps) Was that reference merely inaccurate or was it there to mislead?  Did I make an inaccurate conclusion based an an assumption?  Yes.  And we all know what happens when we make an assumption.  We make an ass out of u & umption.  (Kudos to Samuel L Jackson)  Did I step in it hard?  Yes, but after this little revelation, I think you would have to modify the degree.  On a side note, I still stand by my comments on Rush, with or without the video.

OK.  In the vein of drawing conclusion & decision making, let's get on to # 2 explanation.  I am so happy that after much though, ultimate blame goes to the LA times, which, in your words, & many others, is "the most liberal news paper in this country."  I will take you word for it that the song originated there.  But let me tell you the rest of the story, as Paul Harvey might say.  Perhaps you are not aware of it, but the LA times, "the most liberal" in the country is owned by The Tribune Co., yes, the Chicago Tribune, (my kind of town) one of the most CONSERVATIVE newspapers in the country.  Now I'll just bet that that is a juicy little item Rush, & others like him, wouldn't bother to mention in his quest to be fair & balanced.  I will allow you to draw your own conclusions.

Object lesson for today kids?  Don't assume.  Observe as much as you can, not just what you want. Do the research.  GW, perhaps without knowing it, you provided a great add on to my blog I mentioned.  I thank you for a double dose of information we all could use.  Hope everone has a great weekend.  JATFUR.

RichK




Submitted by finder on Fri, 03/14/2008 - 10:58am.

Solo;

Thanks for bringing up the other link. That's how I knew it wasn't Rush's 'song'. I took the time to watch the other clip. It explained it very well.

I was going to mention the other film clip but like you I made an assumption that the blogger had already seen it and knew its contents.

TH;

I'm hurt! Are you trying to tell me you don't read my posts? Why did I ask that? If you don't read them you'll never know I asked unless someone else tells you.

You want people to investigate both sides but you won't read a post from someone on the other side. Hmmmm!

Mike Heemer




Submitted by TruthHurts on Fri, 03/14/2008 - 7:24pm.

Mike

I never said I don't read "your" posts nor am I trying to say that. Please don't jump to conclusions. I never mentioned who's posts I read and who's I dont. I wont read some folks posts because in some instances it's not worth it because the conversation is one sided and I will not waste my time.

TRUTHHURTS




Submitted by GhostWriter on Sat, 03/15/2008 - 12:57am.

When I first wrote this blog I said that I wouldn’t voice my opinion at that time, so  I feel I would be amiss if I didn’t give my own opinion on the matter. I used to listen to Rush quite often in the mid nineties. I haven’t herd him in quite some time, until yesterday when I was flipping through the radio channels while driving. The first thing I heard was the song Barack the Magic Negro, and I’m thinking What the F is this; I didn’t know it was rush until after this song was over. When I heard it was Rush, I’m thinking No; he didn’t., He didn’t just play that song on his show. My thoughts were that it was a Racist song, and I never figured Rush was a racist.

Then he explained it was an article that was written in the L.A. Times, and he had someone write it for him. And Then I realized that it was a parity taken from a news article, and that is when I started laughing my Butt off. Then he stated by the end of the day he would own the phase Barack the Magic Negro, and said he would take all the heat from it. And if you have read any of the other responses from other blog sites that is exactly what happened. Many have called for his resignation, and stated he was no better that Don Imus. Some have even called the stations that play his show and demanded he be removed from their programming. It pretty much comes down as Rush Called it.

So; this is my question for my fellow blogers, what is the difference in the parity Saturday Night Live did about Hillary and Obama last week, and this parity? This is why I decided to do my little experiment, and you guy’s Proved what I was thinking would happen. We all can have misleading assumptions based on our political and ideological beliefs. And once we form our beliefs we tend to go through life with blinders on. Ok that is my point of view and why I wrote my blog as I did.            

 

Finder, the assumptions I made were from reading the other blog sites of what others had to say and the responses that you guy’s made, It was not to ensure that my data stated my position. As you can see from above what my first reactions were, and then my conclusion, after I realized what it was about.              

Truthhurts Criticism can enlighten ones life in many aspects, as long as one looks at it in a constructive manner. One thing I have learned in life is, I never try and change ones opinion, I only try and make my point. If your point is made clear enough people will admit their errors and see your point, much like SOLO did. You see my opinion is mine and no one can take it from me, I can change it; but you can’t take it. And you are so right about investigating the truth, you do have to look at both sides to form an honest opinion, buts as you see; we can get so tied up in our own ideology, and beliefs we forget to look at the other aspects of the situation.

  

 Solo I’m not sure you drew your conclusion on facts, could it be, you drew your conclusion on your beliefs?  ”That does show that there is absolutely no shortage of people willing to be led by the noses, intellects firmly implanted in their back pockets, and all to eager to listen to the puerile sophistry of some bombastic blowhard rather than think for themselves.  Of course, that is only my opinion, you see.  But I do thank you for providing this very substantial evidence to back up my opinion. Is that a fact, or is that your belief. Do you see what I mean?  

 

You are right, I’m bad, I did go back too the site to look for a reference to rush, and I missed it. It was getting late and I was in a hurry to finish the blog. That is no excuse I should have been more thorough, before I made that statement. You said It was a natural assumption.  As I said, what I failed to do was more research, but then I wasn't that interested.”  This is what I’m talking about; your natural assumption was based on you beliefs, and not information.

 

You are right this does coincide with your blog about thinking caps, but not intentionally it just worked out that way. I don’t think your reference was made to mislead; and it was only inaccurate because you based it on beliefs instead of information. That doesn’t make it bad; it’s just human nature to do so. Solo you did step in it hard, but the revelation you made strengthens the point I have made. Your comments on Rush will stand, because It is your opinion based on your beliefs, not fact.

Ok on to number two. The song did not originate from the L.A Times, It was an article written by Mr. Ehrenstein, and Rush had the song written as a parity. As far as the media and who owns what, whether it comes from the left, or right I think they all have their own agendas they try and push. When reading, or listening to any media, I don’t what there opinion; I just want the information so I can form my own. As far as an opinion in the media goes, that is the section they should remain in.

When I decided t do this I was a little concerned y’all would take it in a negative manner. I was pleasantly surprised how everyone involved accepted it. I had fun with it, I only wish more would have placed their two cents in. You guy’s, and girl are great.  It's late I'm tired, and I'm out of here. Y’all would be surprised if you knew who I really was, I am the GhostwriterCool

  




Submitted by SoloVoce on Sat, 03/15/2008 - 8:17am.

GW,

There probably is a kernal of truth in what you say.  Many things led to my remarks.  As I stated in some previous blog, I used to listen to Rush @ 3 days a week.  My friend & I use to work out, go back to his house for coffe & a game or 2 of yahtzee on the computer.  Don't ask.  We just liked yahtzee for some reason.  But he liked Rush, this was back in the early 90's, it was his house & I had never heard of him.  My friend told me that he was a very popular, right wing commentator who had some good ideas.  So I said, what the heck, I'll listen.

At the time, I agreed that he did have some good ideas.  But only some.  Then, as now, Rush, (and he is certainly not alone in this by any stretch) had the two things that are huge turn offs for me.  I've mentioned them before & they haven't changed.  The first is a combination of attitude & style but I don't judge on that alone.  He ponitficates as though he were the pope speaking ex cathedra & regardless of the subject matter, the right is always right & everybody else is wrong.  Sorry.  Even going with basic statistics 101, that can't happen.

The second is purely style & once again, Rush is certainly not alone.  He comes off, at least to me, as a bombastic blowhard, third rate carney barker/hustler trying to sell snake oil.  I am a proponent of, just because the news is bad, don't kill the messenger.  Don't go by style alone.  Go for substance.   So that part is my fault.  I've always been taught, & have learned from others that if your message seems right to you, you don't have to present it like that.  Present your message, with all your facts & opinions, in an adult manner, with a touch of professionalism.  If you've done your homework by breaking down a problem into the basic components, do the research & present it to others in that manner, your opinions will carry more weight & bring you closer to a solution.  At the very least, you won't come off looking or sounding like Rush, Glen Beck & a slew of others.

So that, along with the Rush connection in the box next to the video, led me to my conclusion, right or wrong.  As I said, I wasn't all that interested in the first place & for that, you can blame the current cat fights of our presidential candidates, Barak & Hillary.  Any dignity and objectivity to the process has been swept away by their antics.  Honestly, if I don't read, see or hear anything more of those two would be fine by me.  But your blog was still a pleasant diversion & I learned a thing or two, thanks to you. Don't hesitate to throw in another test or two down the line.  We could use a refresher course in life.  JATFUR.

RichK




Submitted by Angela on Sat, 03/15/2008 - 11:29am.

GW you posted: Y’all would be surprised if you knew who I really was, I am the GhostwriterCool

I don't know how many times I have said my name is Angela and what good did that do.

I've had more names than all the bloggers put together according to some. Still my name is Angela and hasn't changed since my birth.

It's like your blog people start something and everybody follows and swears they know the truth. So just write your blogs and don't worry about what people think. Don't believe every thing people tell you. I swear I should of used some pseudo name when I started on the blogs in March of last year.

Funny blogSmile




Submitted by Cameron_Ford on Sun, 03/16/2008 - 12:20am.

Your comment that Rush survives "on a relatively small number of dedicated listeners"  is slightly off.  Maybe the local person you speak of has a small audience but Limbaugh's listeners number in the deca-millions.  Believe it or not.




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